Nicotine pouches, tobacco's latest ploy

Nicotine pouches, tobacco's latest ploy(med.stanford.edu)

13 points by car 3 days ago | 5 comments

asdff 2 hours ago |

Article is pretty weak honestly. Claims these products are heavily marketed but I just don't see any advertising for them at all really. Where do these things even get advertised?

Facts are people like a nicotine buzz. It goes well with work and the lack of spit or any smell means it is compatible with basically every job, whereas with a vape you'd have to find a moment to inconspicuously hit it and zero the hit if you can't blow it out openly. You can bring a pack of this stuff anywhere you can't smoke or vape normally. It goes well with drinking. It goes well with smoking weed. The biggest advertisement is probably someone next to you throwing back a pouch and asking if you want one. The second biggest advertisement is the pouch you see spat out in the urinal. They really don't have to do much. It sells itself on its own merits. People have been fond of stimulants for thousands of years now. That isn't going to change anytime soon.

cma 1 hour ago | |

Lots of podcasts advertise them, I think Tucker Carlson, one of the biggest podcasts in the world, has his own brand or promotion deal. I don't know if he is popular with young adults or still has his fox news demographic.

It's much easier to control dose and taper off than cigarettes. Doesn't seem that much worse than something like coffee. I think it has some heart risks, but gets rid of the cancer risk of cigarettes and dipping.

asdff 1 hour ago | | |

Podcasters are willing to chirp for whatever pr department will pay them a couple grand for a segment. Doesn't mean that chirping is effective really.

I bet tucker carlson's support has converted exactly zero users towards these products. I still think they are sold basically on their own merits and from the fact they are in every gas station and convenience store on the planet at this point, and people really want to use nicotine because again, stimulants have a lot of merits and utility for people.

thin_carapace 1 hour ago | | |

coming from a big supporter of smoking, downplaying the addictive nature of nicotine is insidious of you; most people have no idea what sort of a demon it can become. its also insidious of you to state that pouches 'get rid of the cancer risk' considering that any nicotine product very much does have a cancer risk.

slopinthebag 2 hours ago |

It's like the safest way to consume nicotine and it's significantly less disruptful to others. I.e it should be heavily promoted as an alternative to smoking.

But of course the nanny state supporters want to ban everything they don't personally use and starts with the D-word...

xmcp123 2 hours ago |

Really low quality article. Have barely seen any marketing around them, but more than that the separation from nicotine gum is horeshit.

Nicotine gum does have 3mg. But most common? 6mg. The pouches I’ve seen/used are 5mg, available in 3mg.

It’s the exact same thing - switching the way it’s ingested to one of less harm, with the ability to step down the total amount.

whycome 2 hours ago |

> “I don’t think they should be sold in youth-appealing sweet, fruity or minty flavors, and they should be limited to what’s authorized for nicotine replacement therapy, no more than 4 mg of nicotine per pouch.”

I’m really tired of this idea that adults can’t enjoy sweet, fruity, or mint flavors.

asdff 1 hour ago | |

Has anyone making these claims ever been a proper teenage delinquent? Obviously not. It could taste like bilge water and people would still try to use it because monkey brain wants a buzz.

slopinthebag 2 hours ago | |

They do this in Canada, you can only legally get mint, mint, or mint flavours. So people import or buy on the black market, often counterfeit, which tends to burn and taste like crap with who-knows-what-chemicals they put in those.

Let adults do what they want please. Me consuming a 20mg citrus pouch doesn't hurt anybody.