The Agentic Loop: Three loops in a trench coat(bobbytables.io) |
The Agentic Loop: Three loops in a trench coat(bobbytables.io) |
See https://www.britannica.com/story/do-toilets-in-different-hem...
For me it's more intuitive the other way around, as the "outer" loops increase in complexity (and can have additional separate loops running inside them). It also makes sense because you can always add more (meta) loops that way.
Curious how you're addressing this
(I haven't tried Fable yet, but people have been writing about this stuff long before Fable came out so that shouldn't count.)
It makes sense for something like autoresearch because you're trying to exhaustively explore a space that would be impossible for a human to explore by hand. But for something like building the software to run a business, there's absolutely no way I would trust anything like this. It's ultimately just superpowered vibecoding, giving you the ability to churn out more slop faster, not build useful things faster.
Show me one example of a successful application developed using this kind of meta-meta-loop architecture. Supposedly Claude Code itself is entirely AI generated code, but it's not a `while` loop, it still has a team of designers and developers.
(Also this meta-loop stuff is different from the tactical-level Ralph Wiggum loop stuff. That's a strategy to make smaller/weaker LLMs perform like better LLMs, using say 5x more tokens but at 1/10 the cost per token so that the cost-benefit math works out.)
a harness is a chain connecting two other chains, the LLM and the human are themselves made up of loops within loops within loops.
So am I understanding correctly then that the tools that come with monthly subscriptions are inherently limited and unable to expand to what the article describes in the outermost loops?
For example Claude Code already has some relatively sophisticated features for managing automated loops of doing stuff (and really don't overcomplicate it -- a loop is just doing something over and over). And there's the meme of running `while true ; do claude < prompt.txt ; done` as your agentic coding framework. And there are also plugins for Claude Code such as https://claude.com/plugins/ralph-loop.
So yes by default Claude Code doesn't include some kind of 5-layer meta-hyper-meta-looper thing. But that's not what the article is about anyway... it's just describing how agent harnesses work and how humans typically interact with them, without using that layered meta-looping stuff.
The high-level questions you are asking suggest you don't yet have a great base-level understanding of the concepts.
It’s also hard to tell what’s a joke these days surrounding a lot of AI “best practices” and what’s a legitimate idea worth exploring.