Of course the shills are shifting their tone: this thread as devolved into "sure yup it's totally SOTA but it sucks because it'll use more tokens than Fable to do the same task".

I take it that's the new tune we'll hear for a while. Oh well, at least we won't have to suffer the "they're six months behind, so they're totally useless" anymore.

P.S: I'll make a prediction... We'll hear the "buuuuuuuuut it uses more tokens for the same task" for a few weeks, then we'll get Fable 5.1 and those same posters are going to post "Fable 5.1 is so much ahead you're missing out if you're still on that piece of turd that Fable 5 or K3 is".

> Kimi K3 is the first open model to reach 2.8 trillion parameters. It marks the latest step in Kimi's sustained push at the scaling frontier: for nine of the past twelve months, Kimi models have set the upper bound of open-model sizes.

https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3

That said, as the frontier moves, "months old" becomes more and more useful. Opus-tier models are being used to write serious software, so we're going to start seeing open models pick up a lot more usage imo.

(I've added this URL to the header of the main discussion. We always consolidate multiple threads about a topic into one thread, to avoid fragmenting the discussion and taking front page slots away from other articles.)