AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less – HotHardware

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less – HotHardware(hothardware.com)

23 points by rbanffy 3 days ago | 18 comments

It’s a shame Windows is still so far ahead for game compatibility. Feels a shame to pair such a nice CPU with such a bloated OS.

haunter 1 hour ago |

Already down to $280 https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1uz0grn/cpu_...

Honestly (apart from the general hardware parts pricing crisis) the problem is that you can get the 7800X3D for almost the same price or just slightly more. Especially if you have a Micro Center nearby you.

But it's not bad if you can find a good combo deal with a mobo and RAM, https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4812%204019%204020%204021&Srch...

embedding-shape 48 minutes ago | |

> Especially if you have a Micro Center nearby you

Do they have stores in every state? Even assuming they have, seems fair to assume maybe just 3-4% of people actually have a Micro Center close enough to visit, oddly specific tip :p

rbanffy 1 hour ago |

A shame the x3d cache parts lack integrated GPUs. The extra cache could be handy for inference with smaller models.

Mashimo 52 minutes ago | |

Newer models do have both the x3d cache and integrated GPU. For example AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D

yakz 35 seconds ago | | |

The 9800X3D iGPU is definitely handy in some situations, but I tried using it with a 4K wayland desktop for a little while and the performance is really not good enough just for that, unless you're OK with some sub-60hz redraw. I was hoping that the driver situation would be better than Nvidia (lots of issues failing to come back from sleep/unlock). The driver was more reliable but I couldn't live with the occasional choppy redraw. It's really not the kind of CPU that you'd buy and expect to use without a high-end GPU anyway.

petra 1 hour ago | |

I wonder what perf. this cpu can get in bit/ternary inference, and whether the 512AVX units(or whats it's called on AMD), get throttled.

glimshe 1 hour ago |

It feels like the people doing the benchmarks are stuck in time. POV-Ray benchmarks but not AI? Most people today, including enthusiasts, don't even know what POV-Ray is.

etiennebausson 1 hour ago | |

It's a gaming chip, literally a lower-cost downgrade of an AI chip meant for gamers instead of AI.

Why would it benchmarked for AI in these circumstances?

Beside, the second page look like those unnecessary AI benchmark to me. I wouldn't recognise such for certain or be aible to estimate their quality, but it's what their summary say.

glimshe 41 minutes ago | | |

Why would they benchmark it in POV-Ray if gaming is all that matters?

People who buy computers may have a primary use for them but it's useful to know performance in their secondary workloads.

speedgoose 1 hour ago | | |

Actually it would be very interesting to know how it performs for AI and whether it has a better value.

dist-epoch 1 hour ago | | |

It's not a gaming chip, it's a desktop CPU chip.

Imagine thinking that all people use PCs for is games...

Mashimo 47 minutes ago | |

What kind of AI benchmarks would you like to see?

glimshe 43 minutes ago | | |

I don't know because I'm not a specialist in benchmarks. The article authors are supposedly specialists, so I'd expect them to identify appropriate benchmarks to make statements such as "while this is a good value for games and general purpose use, it fails for local AI as these benchmarks show", for example.