Ask HN: Will Anthropic or OpenAI start offering Chinese open source models?

3 points by Risse 28 days ago | 9 comments

Do you think there could exist a situation in the market where either Anthropic or OpenAI will offer chinese models for their clients?

jqpabc123 28 days ago |

I think a more likely scenario is Anthropic and OpenAI clients start using Chinese open source models directly.

Why pay more for a middleman if you can go directly to the source?

The problem for Anthropic and OpenAI is to devise some political scheme to stop them.

blitzar 28 days ago |

Will Ford or Tesla start offering German cars?

Do you think there could exist a situation in the market where either Ford or Tesla will offer BMWs or Mercedes to their clients?

Gecko4072 28 days ago |

I think they have a compute shortage and this wouldn’t look very good to investors.

jqpabc123 28 days ago | |

I think they have a moat shortage and this shouldn't look very good to investors.

paulcole 28 days ago |

So Anthropic makes a new model, Qwen or whoever learns how it works and makes their model nearly (but not quite) as good and then sells it back to Anthropic?

Like the soap-making scene in Fight Club.

petesergeant 28 days ago |

Can you explain why you think they would?

jnaina 28 days ago |

sure, upon the successful launch of porcine aviation

eth0up 28 days ago | |

I assure you, I can throw an Oscar Meyer just as far as a Hebrew National.

And let's remember, China conquered the US pork market many years ago ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithfield_Foods )

Porcine aviation may be closer than we think. We would be wise to not misunderestimate the Chinese.

jnaina 27 days ago | | |

nope, never gonna happen. DC treats American AI supremacy as national security, IPO fortunes depend on the "America leads" story and the trump sycophants/toadies/roadies stand to gain millions from the IPO, and everyone thinks Chinese open weights are dumping meant to kill US labs, so Ant and OI will not want to wade into that.