Do newer coding models end up training on the AI slop generated by older models?

6 points by tbharath 2 hours ago | 6 comments

As old coding models were writing and pushing code to public, does the new coding models train on them because generated code by old coding models were not so good?

OsrsNeedsf2P 2 hours ago |

Yes, that's why good datasets are important. But usually the difference between model generations is architectural improvements

verdverm 2 hours ago | |

late training is where a lot of capability gains come from too

tbharath 52 minutes ago | | |

Interesting, how does that work?

verdverm 2 hours ago |

How much do we assume human written code for training the original models is free of human made slop? We all know we all take shortcuts and have code we are not proud of. If they are I deed averaging machines, is it possible their output is the average of human output?

I'd argue that the way attention works plays into the slop too

bdangubic 58 minutes ago | |

30 years of looking at human written code, not great :) in the early years for me (late 90’s) code was just solid. dotcom boom happened and “overnight” everyone was a fucking coder. there are too many of us and average coder is so bad that you would never hire them. not only that, even at 90 percentile is fairly terrible coder. AI has absolutely been training on this garbage human code so it was terrible at coding initially… but it is evolving now on its own