On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails

On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails(github.com)

41 points by microtonal 6 hours ago | 5 comments

develoopest 57 minutes ago |

I don't understand why ensuring general-purpose computing is not a priority of the European Union.

All that talk about sovereignty, and we are giving full control of our digital lives to 2 American companies.

vincnetas 17 minutes ago | |

Well that was the original android phone idea. Get a hackable open device that you can write apps for your self. Even attach third party hardware to it for extra functionality with lots of customisation. But this idea has mutated quite a bit.

yorwba 23 minutes ago | |

There is no shortage of general-purpose computing hardware in the EU. If you need some general-purpose compute to make a car, an oven, or a phone, you can get it. That consumers mostly buy special-purpose devices that don't always allow them to make full use of the possibilities of the hardware is hardly a sovereignity challenge.

inigyou 51 minutes ago | |

It's a regulated market economy. Someone has to actually make the product. They can't force someone to make a product.

There's MNT in the EU.

p0w3n3d 33 minutes ago | | |

They can make the product according to rules that are imposed on them. One rule: allow privacy. Unless the privacy is not in the field of interest of both the producer and the EU

cmeacham98 34 minutes ago | | |

While the EU and its member countries can't (or at least morally shouldn't) force people to make the product, if it was a priority they could incentivise it with funding, tax breaks, etc.

toymin 31 minutes ago | | |

They could give more funding to SailfishOS, for example

pitchlatte 29 minutes ago | |

yeah but processors phone home anyway at a level beneath the OS and there’s no european chip development worth mentioning. so i’m not sure real sovereignty is ever going to be possible. crazy considering ASML being in europe.

jauntywundrkind 5 hours ago |

Noose keeps tightening, the war on General Purpose Computing, the war against users owning devices intensifies. How utterly fallen.

We'll see what happens with the proposed ADB changes. Lots of no one asking for this, lots of people describing how badly their phone use will be greviously impacted, and seemingly very little discussion/engagement/justification. Maybe they'll fire the bullet anyways. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/526109803

mayama 34 minutes ago | |

I said the same thing about waiting for 24hrs before being able to use adb to install apps. About 24hrs being not a big blocker and that it was good for security. It's all about boiling the frog slowly, 24hrs is the start and then they'll add more restrictions once users accept that. Ultimately goog would like to have the system as much locked down as apple or even more.

felooboolooomba 1 hour ago | |

You will own nothing and you'll be happy.

type0 1 hour ago | | |

You, too, will love Big Brother