Doctors are ignoring new federal vaccine recommendations

Doctors are ignoring new federal vaccine recommendations(cnn.com)

6 points by cdrnsf 7 days ago | 5 comments

dlcarrier 7 days ago |

They really shouldn't be making them in the first place. They are regulating the approval process, so to also make recommendations is a conflict of interest.

It isn't just a medical thing. The NHTSA tests cars for safety, but the test data isn't great, so the IIHS turns around and runs better tests. The same should be true of the CDC and AAP, or better yet instead of the AAP an insurance organization should be analyzing data and recommending incentives based on it, without direct input from pharmaceutical manufacturers or the CDC or any other government organization.

toomuchtodo 7 days ago |

Checks and balances, the system works.

> “The science hasn’t changed ...We will continue to follow the science.”

pixel_popping 7 days ago |

To be fair, there is really a massive issue dismissing any discussion related to Vaccines which is frankly insane, go to an average Pedia for example:

- They don't have a mechanism (or just wouldn't do it) to report side-effects or complaints (unsure worldwide but I know personally that it's the case in many countries).

- They aren't even really informed about the vaccine research, they'll just say it's safe, without even actually knowing themselves or getting updated on latest research.

- They wouldn't even actually tell you anything, they would straight tell that your child must take a combo of 7 drugs, hmm ok?

Many people are also talking as if getting vaccines is just "free", nothing is free when it comes to drugs, there is always an upside AND a downside, but apparently discussing the downsides is a sensitive subject, saying there is no downsides is just spitting non-sense.

And now per this article doctors are openly ignoring the new federal vaccine recommendations. So "trust the guidelines" apparently only applies when they agree with them. You can't demand blind trust from parents while selectively disregarding official recommendations yourself, this is exactly how you destroy what little trust is left.

PS: My kid is recently vaccinated, before some Reddit people dismiss the whole thing as "anti-vax"

Arnt 7 days ago | |

That's interesting, which are the many countries of which you have personal knowledge? Name five maybe?

Do these countries have mechanisms to report problems with medications in general, and exceptions for vaccines, or haven't they anything at all?

pixel_popping 7 days ago | | |

Naming 5 would be too short, it's actually the contrary, most countries do NOT have a functional vaccine monitoring system, so the shorter list would be the countries that DO. WHO's GVSB says it too, 65% of member states "do not have a functional post-marketing monitoring system" for vaccines. But since you asked: Philippines, India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Nigeria, Bangladesh, that's ~+2 billion people right there but I can also tell you from European country from my own family (you can discard, sure) that they never actually reported anything despite having patients that complained of X, but that's anectodal, but what I'm saying regarding the fact that it's not reported isn't, it's data, available publicly. My own kid's Pedia do not report as well.

To your second question: many do have drug reporting on paper, mostly because GAVI requires an AEFI committee to access vaccine funding but in practice it's not the case which is why I said "(or just wouldn't do it)", virtually no Pedia would write a report for a kid having a headache post vaccination. As of 2022, apparently only 43% of ALL countries met WHO's absolute minimal bar of ONE serious report per million people per year, SE Asia is at 9%, a third of countries report close to zero.

And this isn't bad faith on my part, these are WHO and CDC's own numbers, not an opinion.

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