Why can't capitalism be judged on its own merits? Why do we need the state to get involved in shaping hegemony?

Siamo tutti antifascisti!

This means that all involved will have their google/apple/whatever account blocked and revoked, correct?

No more services from the USA.

Their websites seems to be based on gandi.net, and this document is threatening secondary sanctions. Will be interesting to check the fallout.

I hope the guys will be able to scramble and move registrars and backup all their data from any service they use personally.

Good luck.

Is antiantifascism profascism?

>Rose City Antifa also used A/I Collective tools and services to disseminate doxing lists and release illegally obtained personal information of Federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement, along with calls for targeted attacks on ICE agents in the streets and “in their homes.”

That's what DHS does. They dish it out but can't handle it when it's done to them. Cowards.

Fascism is alive and well

The far more worrying development is that Tyrant Trump has declared the Palestine Action organization an official terrorist organization, to whatever degree it is an organization at all. Have there actually been threats or acts of violence with political objectives or are we just now calling everything the ruling maniacs don't like a terrorist, as I predicted before the "patriot" act was magically pulled out of a desk on 9/12 and rammed through congress in 6 weeks, before the dust had even settled over the rubble of the twin towers?

That should worry anyone, regardless of whether you agree with them or not unless they have perpetrated some kind of violent acts to scare people in pursuit of political aims like the US government. Trump may only be able to be a Tyrant for about 31 more months at best unless he goes full tilt, but the precedent he is setting will be used against any and all civic and resistance organizations that the ruling maniacs don't like in the future too.

I do not say this lightly, but everyone should be getting serious about what their plans will be when tyranny goes full mask off in the USA and your house and your land and your stuff all the sudden is said to belong to someone else and if you oppose that, you are a terrorist whose children deserve to be shot in the head by government snipers as the try to get water so they don't die of dehydration. No one ever thinks it will affect them, but you are already in the cage, the door is just not closed yet and it's clad in a pleasant facade. What happens when the psychopathic Epstein clan is facing total loss of power because the bond market has collapsed from their evisceration of all trust in the USA and they send their police and military goons after you as you try to scrounge for food to feed your family like in Palestine/gaza? You are the Gazans of tomorrow, you just don't know it yet.

Rose City 'Til I Die. Go pound sand fascists. Traitors to the Constitution.

Beyond parody

PKK is an actual terrorist organization, with half a century history of bombing shopping malls and hospitals and responsible for the death of tens of thousands of civilians. If any organization perpetrated even a single of their attacks on US soil or EU, nobody would dare to talk about them as freedom fighters (perhaps instead NATO's 5th article would get invoked and a global war on terrorism would be declared and all perpetrators would be chased down to the depths of hell, until their deaths put on display alongside a Mission Accomplished banner) but since they're bombing Turkish malls and killing Turkish school teachers, f*ck'em, let's put PKK in the same category as Green Peace.

Imagine a 50000-strong armed Native American organization started bombing supermarkets and schools in DC and New York, kidnap and assassinate big-name businessmen, in addition to engaging in cross border guerrilla warfare and say they won't yield until US yields back all historically Native American lands back to them so they can create a new country. Would you put them in the same basket as Antifa or Green Peace? Or how would you feel Russian and Chinese media making ceaseless woke reporting and framing them as freedom fighters and US soldiers and police as oppressors and the root cause, while indirectly bankrolling them and providing them with platform of operations and weapons, and use all of this (their support or protections for the group, and the woke propaganda machine/condemnation of US gov acts) as a political bargaining chip at every chance.

Does this look like terrorism to you?

Yes, it does. The use of violence and threat of violence to pressure people into being aligned with belief and ideology is terrorism.

At my place of work, the building vandalized and two coworkers were threatened and one assaulted just for wearing a uniform and going to a place of work. Regardless of how you feel about any of the conflict ultimately the person cleaning up the mess and the people assaulted were innocent and had nothing to do with sales or even manufacturing of that specific product.

> Worth noting that at scale larger than family/clan/tribe it beats communism and feudalism on all relevant - to people - metrics.

No, it demonstrably doesn’t. The countries that have the least problems with the issues I mentioned are ones that combine market economics with socialist approaches.

In many ways, those countries are closer to market socialism than they are to pure capitalism.

Also, the US’s historical use of socialism and communism as a bogeyman is starting to look less defensible as China succeeds while the US is failing, and actually doing all the immoral things it used to accuse its opponents of.

> the same can be told about all.

Because the idea that there's one simple ideologically-based system that's going to solve all problems is simplistic.

Markets are useful, but that doesn't mean that societies should be organized around entirely around markets and private ownership of almost everything as the primary governing principle.

The US has really taken this to an extreme, to the point that it has legally ruled that "money is speech", which essentially guarantees an oligarchy.

Treating capitalism and communism/socialism as two sides of a binary choice is a propaganda trick, basically.

The problem with Israel is we do anything they want without getting anything comparable in return. And they control both our parties. It's not like this in Ukraine or the Asian Pacific.

Different arguments for different audiences.

Some people respond to moral arguments directly.

But even if you're all about extractive imperialism, you can make a case for "starting fires in your own backyard is going to be costly for you, especially in the long term."

No?

Written by artists, built by businessmen and engineers.

The state department only designates foreign terrorist organizations, as far as I know.

The US had THAT much trust, not necessarily influence, which just went down the drain.

Safe from arrest/execution, you mean? Abu Omar may disagree, but hopefully we won't get that far.

To be fair, most US companies aren’t particularly sympathetic to radical politics, and many will cave in with only a little pressure. There may also be concerns of a secret FISA warrant.

The downside of hosting overseas is that you’re exposing yourself to the full NSA toolkit, without the usual fig leaf of legal protection.

Dark web P2P is probably the best option.

You forget that a portion of the radical left truly believes that there won’t be an election.

> The current administration in particular is routinely embarrassed in the courts.

this might be true, but they also routinely make big wins. theres enough shit thrown at the wall that some of it sticks

"You would call [groups from a time when white supremacy was widespread and socially acceptable] white supremacist today" is not the gotcha you seem to think it is.

There are plenty of P2P and anonymous collaboration tools out there, but the problem for these groups is that members will use insecure tools unless they are as convenient and capable as what they are used to. This is the same reason that the government constantly screws up its own opsec. Nontechnical people in any group are a serious problem for maintaining security.

(This is also why law enforcement concerns about encryption are overblown.)

Doesn't that scale up terribly? If everyone has 100 friends and is constantly pinging them every second, you're just flooding the internet with junk.

If you insist on nitpicking, I'll spell it out for you:

> look at how the FBI treated [white supremacist] labor groups versus fascists ones in the 20s [..] no need to worry about the decades after, they killed enough [white supremacist?] leaders to stop [white supremacist??] leftwing voices in the US

So the fact that the labor groups the FBI targeted were white supremacist by today's standards makes those sentences complete nonsense.

They are splinter groups because they are violent cowards who use mainstream protests (that might actually have a shot of convincing people of something) as a meat shield for their vandalism.

Minneapolis showed us the way. Sandwich guy showed us the way.

The civil rights movement showed us the way.

Black bloc is embarrassing and associated with the consistent failures of post 60s left wing bubble politics.

The most obviously incompetent right wing government in the United States in years, and we are talking about black bloc? How about getting someone capable to make an argument against them instead of resorting to street tactics - literally the one thing this administration is salivating for as it would offer them an opportunity at mainstream redemption.

Left wing politics is truly so depressing. At this point I would respect a movement that openly argued/modeled a path for blue state secession more than the multitude of left wing degenerates who seem to have gotten their civics from V for Vendetta.