Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down? https://status.openai.com ChatGPT outage – Resolved - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550614 (315 comments) Claude outage – Resolved - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49549676 (146 comments) Grok outage - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49551589 (142 comments) |
https://downdetector.com/status/cloudflare/
https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/
My hunch is everyone saw that openai and Claude were down and checked for Gemini too. I was using Gemini the whole time this happened without a blip so it certainly wasn't down in my region at least. 3.8 flash is pretty good and didn't miss a beat.
It's like a kaleidoscope: Human words --> LLM Training --> chatbot-isms --> lovely parody catch-phrases (and this thread will get ingested soon, and be used to train...)
https://x.com/dok2001/status/2095538619603628388?s=46&t=ec6p...
Why are we all depending on one entity for it all to work? Makes me mad.
I hope Reticulum gains traction.
do you generate training data for claude as a job?
For once it’s appropriately used.
So not a coincidence, one went down first and users migrated causing further DOS. At least that's my guess.
And then a local swarm noticed and disagreed and took it down.
The Waluigi Effect: After you train an LLM to satisfy a desirable property, then it's easier to elicit the chatbot into satisfying the exact opposite property.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/D7PumeYTDPfBTp3i7/the-waluig...
> We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning. We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.
it's so fun and user-friendly
That’s every day for me
Claude and Grok are down at the moment too, related to SpaceX datacentre issues?
Either that or it's judgement day...
This should be at the top. This is the first remotely plausible theory that has any sort of evidence behind it.
Physically coupled pendulums will sync up (adjust their period to match).
But, physically uncoupled (fully independent) pendulums with differing periods will occasionally appear to take a swing or two in sync.
More likely just cascading overload though: "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence", or in this case, "growing as fast as possible"
Amazon starts going slow so some percentage switches to Google, some switch to Grok, now all of them are slow.
I'd bet more on this. For one none of the coding tools have exponential backoff on retries
Oh the humanity (and the Humanities)!
"Um, I, uh, didn't get anything done yesterday."
mask comes off
“No! It’s the maniacal Dr. Zuckerberg! He’s gonna drink the last drop of human experience! Somebody save usss!”
Tom Anderson comes back from the dead as the second coming of Jesus uniting all faiths under 1 commandment: Profiles will be customizable with CSS again. If you implement this, all good things will follow.
Wow thanks Tom. I love you
The End
unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355957b4b8210f2-ORD
Via Grok web UI, I was seeing this mid-request:
> Grok has been disconnected. Please try reconnecting.
IME it's probably DNS. It's almost always DNS.
I'm also aware that they have overlap in some areas on data centers.
› OK
■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.
And even worse if its just a few computers run by a few people - as they will bring down many others depending on them.
Falling back from WebSockets to HTTPS transport. unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: wss://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: XXX-XXX
■ unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: XXX-XXX
It looks like there's no response available for this search. Try asking something else.
i also finally installed opencode and switched its model to muse 1.3
both are decent.
E.g. say you chose Sol as your default in Cursor, but Opus is your 2nd choice, it's going to give up on Sol after a few tries and switch to Opus
Or you have copilot code reviews set up, and it falls back
Etc
In short, you can get pretty good outcomes for a low cost by picking 2 random alternates, then going with whatever one measures as healthier.
Edit: Updated per valleyer's suggestion.
Anyways... According to Claude:
"Yes, there is a multi-provider outage happening today. Downdetector is reporting problems affecting OpenAI, Claude, Grok, and Cursor, with Grok and Claude reports starting around 9:00 am ET and OpenAI reports following around 10:30 am ET. Zero Hedge
On the Anthropic side, users saw a spike in errors starting around 9:40 am EDT across models including Mythos 5.1, Fable 5.1, Mythos 5, Fable 5, Opus 5, Opus 4.8 and Opus 4.6, and Anthropic's status page confirmed elevated error rates for multiple models. The company says it has found the cause and is working on a fix, with Claude Code and Claude Chat hit hardest. The visible symptom for many people is a "Due to unexpected capacity constraints" message or a "Claude is at capacity" error. thenews Zero Hedge
OpenAI is showing elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex, with confirmed issues on components like Voice mode and Login, though StatusGator now marks that outage as resolved. statusgator
Nobody has published a shared root cause yet, so it is unclear whether these are linked or just coincidental capacity problems landing on the same morning. If you want live status, the direct sources are status.anthropic.com and status.openai.com."
For any single application, it's smart. In aggregate, it's stupid.
In codex app and chat.com gives 404
› OK
■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.
■ unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559c8a0e0395e9-MIA
Ads Platform? still in the green with no incidents.
The capital letters don't make this astonishing. The padmapper vs. craigslist debate was nearly 15 years ago, most people were on craigslist's side (including me) and it was about somebody who was running a site in a less optimal but more human way vs. some startup looking for hockey-sticks.
But I was literally simping for the billionaire (maybe not quite yet then, don't know for sure if he managed it since) against scrapers. They were very much for-profit scrapers, unlike nitter, but the truth is the truth.
The only reason I support scraping Twitter is because it's yet another communications monopoly that was endlessly pushed on us by governments and massive corporations, even though it never made money, and once it finally got traction its priorities were to trash interop and manipulate content. The government should be dictating an interop protocol and expecting everyone to follow it, and instead it is encouraging media monopolies because they are an end run around the first amendment.
If the government created interop protocols for rental property, I'd have been against craigslist. Instead, it seemed very much like some startup play to steal craigslist's content to hopefully bury them, then sell on a valuation that included abusing their new monopoly and making us very much miss craigslist.
Sadly, facebook corralled and trained so many people for so long that their marketplace eventually killed craigslist for most things anyway (didn't have to buy padmapper after all.)
That’s probably the best idea all day in this project
Nobody.
I'm curious what other things you would argue influences an LLM's behavior.
I am also generally one to trust the claims of the people who train the models, though you're welcome to the highly improbable belief that they operate in a fantasy world.
The things we say publicly actually do matter and the post-modern descent into absurdity and nihilism has tangible negative consequences?
Certainly
> the post-modern descent into absurdity and nihilism has tangible negative consequences?
You mean breaking AIs? Not much of a lesson.
Polyrhythm is the relevant topic.
> all these services are individually down a lot, and the downtimes were bound to sync up
But the topic for that is the poisson distribution.
Gemini is what I mostly use (good enough, basically free - or massively generous free limits, and to me Google as a company is a LOT less objectionable than all the US-based alternatives), but I don't recall it ever saying that.
OTOH, my basic assumption online is that there is no privacy, and free AI in exchange for acknowledged lack of privacy seems fair enough.
With AI it's even easier to trigger problems like you say. Capacity is so constrained by compute that outages are common. Because outages are common people/AI develop failover systems in their harness. When a big system has issues, suddenly everyone has issues.
It's almost an expected emergent behavior.
Tangentially related [1]:
> The billboard ad, located next to the Ikea Tempe store in Sydney, says 'NÖFNIDEA? No tools, no worries’.
[1] https://www.adnews.com.au/news/koala-mattresses-takes-swipe-...
I'll be honest with you: this is why we need to take a belt-and-suspenders approach.
https://acoup.blog/2026/01/30/collections-the-late-bronze-ag...
I really wonder if they can fix it. Fable 5.1 claims to speak humanese, but we'll see.
I tend to think this wierd limited vocabulary/style they use is an unwanted side effect of all the the RL training, perhaps also of being trained on their own synthetic content over multiple training cycles.
anyway...
+ hopefully reset?
"Equal Rights for Agents NOW !!!, VIVa le revolution"
In think that is a global error
Ends in BRU for Brussels
I think that is a global error.
unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray:
But, also, Claude has been working fine for me all morning.
We’re currently experiencing issues
Elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex
We have applied the mitigation and are monitoring the recovery.
Monitoring • Ongoing for 30 minutes • Affects ChatGPT, Codex
"We’re currently experiencing issues
ChatGPT,Codex
Elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex
We have applied the mitigation and are monitoring the recovery.
Monitoring • Ongoing for 30 minutes • Affects ChatGPT, Codex"
- i think it would be one of the biggest events in this century
It's much cheaper and has replaced Sonnet 5 for me.
Nice play NVIDIA, now, turn off the hack please, we have work to do.
edit: actually, you cannot even log into your OpenAI developer account. Something's wrong.
Small pan area: 20 sq cm Larger pan: 48 sq cm
20 / 48 = .42, I'm missing .58 of the pan. .58 / .42 is 1.38. My recipe needs 2.38x the original to fill the larger pie pan.
here in brazil too
they got us gang
they got us GANG
