Are you sure? According to wiki, there are plenty allowed 5GHz channels in Turkey.
A TV is indeed typically a client. Or station, if you want to dust off your CWNA certificate. One should still include the warning when sharing such projects/advice because of considerations like:
- With no explanations or warnings, the reader may very reasonably apply the same type of fix across several of their badly preconfigured devices. Now when they extend their Windows laptop display wirelessly to the TV over Miracast (a direct exchange this TV supports), both devices will agree they can do so on the bands in whatever region they were set to.
- It's not safe to assume only the AP needs and has a correct regulatory db or regulatory domain set. APs for the wrong region are sold/imported, do not always have correct regulatory dbs, and can also be similarly misconfigured. Clients can also peer to peer or hotspot. In general, you should fairly be warned you're removing one of the 2 sides to the safety system and "the channel I wanted appeared" is not the same thing as "I fixed the buggy channel config on the device".
- As some have pointed out, clients can perform either an active or passive scan based on, basically, what the system feels makes the most sense at the time. An active scan will result in probes across the supported channel list, so even if all of the above is true, people should be aware even a lone station can still transmit on all of the bands it is told to support.
I'm not against fixing buggy devices but I am against telling people the fix is to set it to Germany without warning they may result in using illegal frequencies in your area if not carefully considered. A muuuch cooler & safer fix might have been to patch the supported channel list for the given country to be correct rather than patch the region to be wrong, but that may have been harder to pull off.
With some chipsets it can end up being entirely ass-backwards - if you use an Intel WiFi chipset, a nearby AP can broadcast the wrong region and cripple your connectivity.
Outdated regulatory databases and firmware efforts by vendors have generally made both illegal and legal usage beyond ch 1-12 at 2.4GHz rather difficult.
BTW, I'm someone that use to by US region coded 802.11b wifi devices to get the 13th channel. Except for exploring, it was rarely useful since none of my other devices could connect on it.
Which could still be illegal, but I don't think anyone will realistically investigate a low-power device sending a few packets occasionally.
Although I'm still fully convinced that TVs just got worse for the consumer since they became "smart". My extended family had to replace perfectly good TVs three times because the new version of a streaming app did not work anymore.
Add stuff like running ads on an expensive TV, running spyware that sends screenshots even of your HDMI source back to the company (possibly exposing your passwords and everything), the continuous nagging about new versions and ToS (with dark patterns to accept sending voice data home), and I feel like the only sane option is to never ever give internet connection to these TVs. Use a separate device for streaming.
If this was my own TV it would have been thrown in the trash.
Were they not able to just buy a separate dongle/Apple TV-esque device to use through HDMI?
This particular failure is a blessing in disguise.
I dont understand why EU is not stepping in. LG literally spies on you by capturing screenshot of whatever you watch and send them to the mothership. This includes images and videos from your private USB drive.
The surveillance state is not stepping in to stop spying? This is stuff they can use to profile you. The EU Commission is very keen on Chat Control and has pushed a lot of surveillance laws.
Governments only protect privacy when there is a lot of pressure to do so.
I was able to on my LG. Nice TV, worst firmware ever. It had an issue with Wifi. It basically will not connect once or so a week. You needed to change, you guess it, the region. So I will keep changing from Germany to Spain to Ireland to Germany to Etc. I sent pictures, videos, emails, links to youtube videos to LG support, they wouldn't care, they would just deny it. In the end I bought a Fire TV Max and that was it. But what a horrible support experience LG never again.
Sounds like service mode shenanigans. I'm curious though - does switching the TV to EU even do anything 'better' privacy-wise or anything, or do you just get trapped in that 'region' for services?
2. https://github.com/webosbrew/youtube-webos
3. https://github.com/MoazSalem/litefin
4. I promised myself to install LEDs one day https://houndhillhomestead.com/diy-ambilight/
Modern versions of Apple TV, Plex, Disney, etc all work fine. The only time I ever watch YouTube is on the TV because it has SponsorBlock baked into it so I never see an ad there either.
[1] https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg262022.html
Then almost overnight. They have been making very awful decisions across all layers.
Just another case of enshittification or something else?
The majority of content that people watch is distributed over the internet, so our TVs are connected thus.
Pretty, yeah. Doesn't the same wiki page list a bunch of not-allowed 5Ghz channels too? Or only allowed ones?
I didn't mean to claim it's completely banned, but some channels are, which leads to some hardware makers to just eschew the entire 5Ghz stuff instead of just specific channels, like what this submission is about.
Apple TV serves ads (it's literally called Apple for fuck sake), costs money and extra electricity.
Apple’s App Store review process is more robust and avoids things like 90% of webOS apps giving private bidders access to use your home internet connection through a proxy running on your LG TV.
And tvs show ads too btw.
If you’re worried about electricity costs the Apple tv is probably a lot more efficient than the chip in the tv.
1. No, it does not. The apps themselves do, but that’s up to each service provider. The hardware/system itself does not serve you ads.
2. Being called “Apple” is precisely how you know you have an experience at least a thousand times better than anything your TV has built in.
> OpenLGTV is a collective, non-commercial project for legal reverse engineering and research of LG (Smart and non Smart) TVs firmware, which is partially Open Source.
> The main goal of the project is to improve the functionality of the TVs by adding new features, fixing bugs and providing new software.