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Wayland on FreeBSD does work; combining it with KDE Plasma is quite usable.
FreeBSD is great.
But hey - I appreciate someone promoting FreeBSD for desktop and doing stuff just because he can. Good for him!
FreeBSD is really hard to keep up with the changes - i don’t know of a good source to keep up with what is considered the right way to do things anymore. Anyone know a good source? Linux is much better for blogs.
https://www.freebsd.org/releases/
But you are running 16-CURRENT, which is the development branch not suitable for production or daily use. Is that why you are struggling?
The command I referenced is not, I guess 16 only. Other examples are the service command just appearing, etcupdate being preferred to mergemaster, whatever the current preferred flavour of port upgrade tool is (poudrire, portmaster, portupgrade, something else(?)).
I also have no idea what is a sane way to do things that Linux does as systemd user services like pipewire, xdg-sessions if I want to share my screen.
-current is definitely ok for production
What is he talking about?
- https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2026/01/18/200-mb-ram-freebsd...
The 2 quotes just say "they killed it", but the way I read it having followed most linux stuff is just they are finally happy that they were able to "kill X.Org" in RHEL by being able to provide an alternative that they are able to actually improve upon.
And metux was banned from my knowledge after multiple times pushing uncompilable and breaking changes to the actual X.Org repo, which later needed to be reverted and just being stubborn as all hell to work with. Recently even Artix had to drop XLibre support for causing too many issues[0] to put it lightly.
[0]: https://artixlinux.org/news.php#XLibre_support_discontinued
Yup. And with FreeBSD's bhyve you can run VMs. My plan to be, at long last, entirely systemd free again is FreeBSD/bhyve/Linux VM (a distro without systemd)/(podman) containers.
The amazing thing with containers is that, by definition, PID1 ain't systemd and they're minimal: no room for systemd and its tentacles meddling everywhere in a container.
Now I could go all Linux (a systemd-less distro) but sadly IMO the Linux ecosystem is way too cosy with systemd, so I prefer a safer bet with FreeBSD.
I wonder how many of us are beginning to use FreeBSD because of our sheer hate of the poetteringization of the Linux ecosystem?
I was a committer long ago, these days sticking to latest releases on my boxes
Desktop is a moving target and modern hardware usually requires -current, but I wouldn’t call it “production”
For port upgrades, I dunno if it applies to CURRENT, but pkg seems to work?
I usually read the release notes for each release, which keeps me up to date enough.
I dunno about your session question. In X11, you could drop those in .xsession, but Wayland is a just a protocol, so who knows.
I much prefer sway as my desktop, but each to their own.
That said, GPUs look like they mostly vent to outside the case, but that is largely untrue. They mostly vent to the inside and that really heats up the case.
They did Wayland instead, that killed X11 since X11 windows and such can be spawned under Wayland. but wayland isn't x11 so people miss shit and wish it was there.
Except the reality never plays that way, unless we are talking about tiny projects.
Lets see for how long xlibre keeps going.