This reminds me the famous (although unproven) "640K ought to be enough for anybody."
It could be less that the current models are good enough forever but that if the prices for proprietary models get too high, people will switch to open or self hosted options. We have not even begun to exhaust the possibilities of the current models.
If model development stopped today it would still take decades for the productivity benefits to diffuse through society.
I see tons of devs fretting about how only Opus is "smart" enough for the React CRUD web app they are building even though Sonnet and Chinese models are demonstrably equivalent for most real world developer use cases
- 20% of revenue is from just 2 customers >> If their highly concentrated customers get smart and start looking at low cost (meta, grok, google) or open weight (nvidia, inkling, reflection) models it's all bad news for Anthro. This isn't happening now but it's the sort of thing that barely moves until it moves all at once.
As others have mentioned $72b of $80b headline is a non cash (but still relevant) accounting line.
Reuters reported first in September that Anthropic posted a net loss of $42 billion in 2025 and plans to spend $518 billion on cloud, computing and infrastructure obligations in coming years.
It is actually faring much better than other tech startups ipo’ing over the last 20 years.
The other $72 billion was non-cash adjustment.
Revenue was $16.3 billion for H1 2026, up from $1.1 billion for H1 2025.
Not actually that bad.
Interesting, would love to know the details of this.
Total loss is about 96 billions, they deduced the top (~16 billions) from the bottom to get the net loss (~80 billions). What is "Other Expenses" here? The article says nothing about that. I am not sure to get this right.
This is great for Anthropic, but who is increasing their AI spending in this climate?
That would very much not be great for Anthropic, they need to be accelerating growth to keep valuation, doubly so as interest rates on corporate bonds continue to rise.
Microsoft, SK Group, Meta, Google, Oracle, etc.
Does that mean they lost $8bn in actual cash? I'm trying to understand how that matches up to their earlier reported claims that Q2 and Q3 were "profitable".
(Oh wait, this $80bn loss is reported for "the first half" of 2026, so it's not including the supposedly profitable Q3.)
Hmmm...
My advice: if you actually want to know the truth of what is going on, get a general understanding of finance and read the actual financial statements/filings and their disclaimers. It's very easy to write articles like this that cherry pick certain numbers out of context to support a specific narrative. Reuters is in the process of liquidating their reputation in the same way that forbes and business insider and many others publications have.
they are obviously a con ( opinion). look at last slop report. opus 5.5 gets _worse_ when u put higher attention settings. u get banned for using better harnesses etc. etc.
they could do really well. a lot of avid supporters. But i think if they do not change their tactics then openAI, GLM for those who can run it, or others, might start taking even those (pardon my french) religious fans.
The overwhelming majority of the net loss in the first half of this year, $72 billion, resulted from accounting charges linked to changes in the value of convertible notes and other instruments Anthropic has issued, according to the report.
So this is really just capped notes converting. Total nothing burger.
So the "loss" happens, because they were issued assuming one company valuation before, but the company is worth a lot more now, so the equity exchange on the conversion is now more "expensive", and thus a loss? But ultimately it just means the earlier investors are getting their equity cheaper than what an equivalent would be worth today, right?
Sounds like not too bad of a problem to have if I'm understanding things right. It implies Anthropic is worth more than expected, so they should have potentially received more money back in the day, but the whole point of those convertible notes is the future value is highly speculative. In the end if that's your problem, its because you're potentially crushing it harder than expected at least from a valuation viewpoint.
Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. I am not in finance, and am definitely looking to learn and understand more.
What we need to see is the statement of cash flows.
Whats happening to that cash balance?
People are missing the point IMO - the reinvestment needs is what matters. A) how large are they? B) How will they change over-time? C) How does a slow down in capabilities and closing of the gap by China + price-competition affect their cash flows from operations net of the reinvestment (e.g. will it draw down their cash balance).
You can only hold the perception of increasing capabilities for so long - humans are very adaptive as we are seeing and scare-tactics do not work forever.
Foolish poster.
Apple is very good at what they do. They will move mountains and invent new technologies to achieve their goals. But the goal is not the technology itself -- it's the experience.
People complained Macs had underpowered hardware. That's because Apple didn't need overpowered hardware to achieve the experience they wanted. Same for iPhone, and how it still has less memory than Android flagships -- by as much as half in some cases, or even more. But they simply don't need more for the experience. (Though recently they have felt the RAMpocalypse)
I believe the same will happen here, and everywhere. Apple will not release a frontier model just because they can. They won't pull ahead just for the sake of it. But there is a high likelihood that they will create much a better experience, that doesn't need a model to be at the frontier.
Of course, they also make considerably powerful machines now. Pushing your hardware to the limit is a significant experience these days, and Apple sees the market for it. Even if they do not create the next frontier model themselves, we may eventually find one running on Apple hardware anyway.
I also think that it is not just user experience, but developer experience that stands to benefit. Apple's developer experience has been rotting since Jobs died, but I still hold out hope that they will pull through. Call me foolish for that, though, if you must.
Embedded and industrial computing however have had a profound impact
Could real GDP. Maybe...? I mean people need to dive into the details. How many products/services can be sold...? its not infinite dont be stupid.
Its easy talking about this stuff at a high-level, when you start going into the details you begin to get very uncomfortable. The math right now, simply does not math!
Firms will not wait forever to see what the value of frontier AI is - these scare tactics are wearing off.