19-year-old hacker reveals how he rigged voting machines and election in Brazil(translate.google.com) |
19-year-old hacker reveals how he rigged voting machines and election in Brazil(translate.google.com) |
Every eletronic ballot in Brazil prints the vote count for each candidate before leaving the voting room. Several copies of this report are printed, every citizen may ask for each and political parties often do it. I do it for the ballot I vote.
However, he claims to tamper the results after that, during the data consolidation process, when data from every ballot is summed. So, to prove him right, it is only a matter of checking if the ends meet.
Apparently, they meet. No political party has ever contested the results based on this difference.
Not to say Brazilian voting system is infallible - there are many problem with it. But this is not one.
I noticed Globo/Folha/et al haven't reported on this despite it having been revealed in December of last year.
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On a side note...
Anyone who speaks Portuguese, I recommend the documentary "Vocação do Poder", that follows 6 electorial candidates in Rio while on the campaign trail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI8_oz6lsbE
For those who don't speak Portuguese, search out the documentary "Send a Bullet" which looks at crime and fraud in Brazil.
Voters and political parties have access to the printed copies of each ballot's report, printed before the ballot leaves the voting room. I used to work at the elections and I know they do, indeed, request these reports even before the ballot even leaves the room.
If you want to check a posteriori, the reports signed by everyone who worked at the voting room, plus the political parties representatives, are available at the electoral courts for anyone to check them.
As no one, specially no losing political party or this very guy who claims to have tampered the vote count, has ever came with an inconsistent ballot report, I can say that apparently, this is not a kind fraud that happens.
As I said, there are many problems with the current e-voting system in Brasil. The machines are closed-source, and there are no way to check the vote during the voting process.
But once the reports are printed, they are as good as any paper ballot, as this report works as well as a traditional manual voting counting report. Actually, better, as we can print several copies of the report in a distributed way.
Voters would enter their vote into a computer. The computer would print out a card for you, and show it to you from behind a perspex card. You would then say "OK" to verify that it was correct and it would drop into a box.
Now there'd be a physical copy of the cards. These could be counted and checked by scrutineers as the current electoral process works. They would need to do a manual count independent of the electronic count, and the judiciary could oversee a wrap-up ceremony where the two were compared for correctness.
In order to rig a vote and get away with it, you'd need to hack both the computer system and the manual count. Chavez could do it, but joe random hacker definitely couldn't.
But you'd get a fast, clear result for television purposes. Voting cards would not be ambiguously filled in the way they are now. And if you had a compulsory preferential system, as in some jurisdictions now, you could cause the software to enforce that in a way that isn't possible with manual entry at the moment.
Paper is excellent for ballots. It's easy to understand (put a mark next to whoever you want to elect). It's easy to collect (put ballot in a box). It's easy to count (have multiple people look at ballot, tally result). It's easy to secure (seal the boxes, keep them in a secure location). It's easy to verify (unseal the boxes, count again). It's tamper evident (examine ballots closely). You can ensure that the whole process is fair by having observers physically present each step of the process watching for shenanigans.
The only downside is that it's labour-intensive. But really, that's minor. Accept that as the cost of being confident in the election results. There are fewer things more important in a democratic society than free and fair elections.
Every machine (which is never online) prints a sum of all votes at the end of the day, and several copies are given out to those who are working the poll site.
So there is a hard copy of the votes, and anyone can check.
> So there is a hard copy of the votes, and anyone can check.
I think it's not enough to have the ability to do a count. It needs to be inherent to the system. Think of it as being similar to double-entry book-keeping.Otherwise you can come up with situations like that described in the comment elsewhere here by DaviNunes, where a request for a check cound was denied by courts. In that election - it wasn't true that anyone could check.
You'd get all the institutional protections of the current system. But you could minimise confusing/invalid ballot entries, and get a decisive election result for media purposes on the day of the election.
Why not just give the voter a unique hashed password that he can enter the internet and verify the vote that was computed for that password. Then the voters are the ones that will verify the election.
This has been posted verbatim in several places already.
http://www.lucaspeperaio.com.br/blog/hacker-de-19-anos-conta... http://www.pragmatismopolitico.com.br/2012/12/hacker-fraude-... http://www.tecmundo.com.br/brasil/34010-em-evento-no-rj-hack... http://jornalistaflavioazevedo.blogspot.com.br/2013/01/hacke...
All from blogs. Not a single major news source.
This is, most likely, complete bullshit.
EDIT: There have been both allegations and convictions of election fraud in Sweden, but never anything related to the counting of votes.
Trust me, your country is very different from the rest of the world and I mean that in a good sense (such as a parameter of good governance).
This a country with more than 180 million people and mandatory vote, elections here are massive. Every time someone touches a vote there is a chance for it to be defrauded or replaced. In the past, stories of lost and inflated ballots and replaced votes where trivial. Because a lot of the voters are poor another trick was to give to the voter an already marked vote and demand the original valid one back so the candidate could buy a vote in a election.
There are "The Alagoas case" which the candidate Joao Lyra requested a recount because he found out 1/3 of the ballots contained incorrect data and then asked for an audit, the court demanded 2 million for this audition, Joao Lyra then asked the the court itself to pay for it, since it would be in its interest to demonstrate the fairness of the process, the court refused to pay and even condemned the candidate for "bad faith litigation" for asking for an investigation and not paying for it(despite showing inconsistent ballot data).
It's true, our eletronic ballot prints the report but there is no way to check if the sum of digital records are the same as the printed reports. We have no way to tell if our votes has been correctly collected nor the political parties that the votes were correctly summed, thus impossible to make a recount. In a voting system where you are not sure on whom your vote was recorded and the Election Court goes against political parties that accuse it, IMHO thats a true threat to democracy.
For a safer election it must include a voter-verified paper audit trail, a VVPAT allows voters the possibility to verify that their votes are cast as intended and can serve as an additional barrier to changing or destroying votes.
German and Holland Court already banned this first generation eletronic ballot box for not being secure enough, and Brazil is the only country on the world who still uses it.
Yes, there is: you can check the electronic records online and compare it against the printed reports.
The other allegations are surely important to the voting transparency discussion, but are not related to the allegations on the OP.
Since there is no per vote paper ballot, it.is.his.word.against the judge word, so guess who win.
I mistype dots a lot (it is right next to space) and HN layout on mobile combined with how my phone keyboard works make impossible to see what I am typing (so any typos also go through)
Mind you, we have a population of 35 million people. But the size of the population doesn't matter: vote counting is an embarrassingly parallel problem.
The only explanation for election results taking a month is corruption, plain and simple. And voting machines will not solve that. Election fraud is a human problem and requires a human solution, not a technological one. If a nation cannot properly administer their own elections, then the people should insist that a third party (e.g. the UN) monitor them.
The exception in Sweden is pre-election day votes which quite easily could quite easily be tampered with if we were more corrupt.
The only reason I can see why counting the votes could take a month is to make it easier to rig the election. There is no technical reason for it.
The allegation in the OP has nothing to do with this - he says he can change the results AFTER the ballots have printed the results.
> Because a lot of the voters are poor another trick was to give to the voter an already marked vote and demand the original valid one back so the candidate could buy a vote in a election.
For example wouldn't it be trivial to make this impossible? Simply make sure people can get more than one paper and there would be no original vote that could be used as proof. They would have to have a guy standing there watching you which would work with voting machines too.