Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor(anandtech.com) |
Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor(anandtech.com) |
Before buying this, you need to wait until a professional with a colorimeter and a lagmeter evaluates this monitor if you remotely care about color accuracy or gaming. Resolution isn't the only consideration when buying a new monitor.
Lots of hackers only care about having enough pixels to legibly represent characters in their tiny coding font.
Sure it is! Reading on a monitor is pure torture ever since I bought a Retina MBP. If this is anywhere close to being affordable (realistically: no) I'd buy it for that reason alone.
> Sure it is!
So you'd be fine with a 3840x2160 monitor that has a 5Hz refresh rate? Or one with a 500ms lag time? Or one that only displayed in grayscale, or in 8-bit color?
Resolution is perhaps the most important consideration, but by no means the only one.
In this new high-res world, virtually all desktop monitors are just broken. Ugh, I am typing these very words right now on a 30" Dell 3008FWP, and I want to gouge out my eyes...
I want to buy a couple of monitors and mount them. But there's just one small thing stopping me. I don't know if it's just me, but something feels wrong about rotating a monitor with such a prominent logo.
If I was a screen manufacturer I would have a speaker bar on the bottom that has the logo and a few easy brightness controls on it - total Fisher Price usability.
I would then add in a feature for the pros - have it so the speaker/controls bar can be folded up under the screen.
In that way people that like their bling logos could have the logo on view, those that just want a panel can have no distractions.
If engineered nicely you could have USB and video inputs on the drop-down bar made accessible from the front.
At most they could make the logo easily removable, too me that would be a fair compromise.
My coworker got the new Dell XPS 15, which has a QHD+ 3200x1800 screen. Just a heads up to coders, unless you plan to hunch your back or get new glasses, very few of you will enjoy the screen as much as you think you would.
The only major culprit so far has been Dropbox, which is infuriatingly frustrating to use at HiDPI. So bad it makes me want to move everything to SkyDrive or Google Drive.
Support on Windows isn't perfect, but most programs handle it well by now.
I code all day in Sublime on a 2560x1440 13" laptop at 1.5x scaling (Asus UX301LA-DH71T).
We're almost back to 10 years ago, yay.
For the majority of games 4K won't pose an issue whatsoever with a modern high end video card.
With a Titan card from nVidia, maxing out at 20 FPS on Unigine, it's pretty depressing. We need to see a 2 to 3x fold performance increase in graphics cards for gaming to be realistic on 4k screens.
my how far we've come from the good ol' days of CRT
I have one beside the same size thunderbolt display and I like the monoprice one better (it seems to have a more effective anti-reflective coating).
In comparison, in a 2560x1600 24" monitor you'd get either quite big/ugly double-pixels, or scaling artifacts of non-integer multiple scaling.
I'm after screen real estate and want to see a lot of code at the same time. Does anyone have any thoughts about replacing my 30" work monitor with a 55" TV with a lot more resolution?
It seems like if you do not do gaming, you should be fine.
Incidentally, my review of my wife's Seiki: http://tiamat.tsotech.com/seiki-4k
4K at 24" is really interesting, however. Not necessarily because I want to use a small monitor again, but rather because it's a sign that we are slowly inching toward high-DPI large form-factor displays. And I've been waiting for that to happen for a decade.
Next would be extending that pixel density to 30" (~6K) and larger (~8K). Then I will celebrate a bit.
The win with a ~200dpi 24" 4k will be OS X-style Retina upscaling, not simply screen real estate.
(2) Being too large is relative, my 30" 2560x1600 quickly became normal sized. For the additional pixels the additional inches of a 39" seems about right.
(iii) HDMI at 30Hz is just fine for anything but gaming. I used to have an IBM T221 that also ran at 30Hz and it was no problem at all for text and video. Some people expect there will be mouse lag, there wasn't.
2) 39" is not way too large. I want 50" on my desktop.
iii) Yeah, HDMI 1.4 is limiting, but 30Hz makes it still usable for non-gaming. DisplayPort? I guess I won't balk at it, but just give me HDMI 2.
I am critical of the monitor for other reasons: a) it doesn't power up on DPMI on and has a splash screen, 2) it has a semi-glossy screen and professional monitors should be matte, and iii) it's HDMI 1.4.
This isn't about real estate; it is easy to buy a big monitor, but about pixel density.
Additionally, you can take that extra size and just sit a little bit further away from it.
Here's a review of one of the screens currently on the market: http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-television/lg-55ea980w-p1619...
Strangely, the first few OLED TVs at size have been concave (presumably more "because they can be" rather than because they need to be). Flat screens are also hitting the market now: http://www.oled-info.com/oled_devices/tv
"The market" is often an obstructionist bitch.
The difference is staggering. 30Hz is terrible, and the lag when moving the mouse, dragging a window, or scrolling text is perceptible and annoying.
I used the T221 at 30Hz in a multi-monitor system with the other two monitors at 60Hz. I could drag a window so it straddled the 30Hz monitor and a 60Hz monitor. The DPI was severely mismatched so it wasn't very useful to straddle like that, but movement across the monitors was not obnoxious, not terribly fluid, but not annoying either.
I'm sure different people have different tolerances for latency, but I tend to think my tolerance is pretty low.
Minimum really isn't all that interesting, though. A single low spike won't ruin a gameplay session. The average FPS was 42, the low spikes were few and far between. It's absolutely playable - that's the entire basis for which the settings were picked btw.
So, playbable, probably, but enjoyable, not so sure about that.
As it runs at 1920x2400@25 Hz you can't really watch a movie on the screen because in the middle of the screen where the two halves meet you have a weird effect of any movie due to, I guess, low frame rate and not completely sync'd outputs. I guess you could confine it to one half of the monitor but gosh, are you going to watch your movies in 11" ?
If the monitor will allow for 3840x2400@30Hz on DisplayPort 1.1 (which most people have -- 1.2 is rare, Intel got it in Haswell, and I think nVidia got to 1.2 maybe late 2011) that may be enough for coding and watching movies. Forget games. Time will tell. I will try when the monitor has a three figures price tag.
Also, 4K displays achieving 60Hz over DisplayPort 1.2 are http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/reviews/hardware/vgaca... using the same tiling dual display (at least currently), with each tile being 1920x2160@60Hz and producing weird effects as thearticle shows.
Also, it will be fun and games when, unlike with DVI where figuring out whether you had SL or DL was relatively easy you will now need to figure out whether you have DisplayLink 1.1 or 2.0 with zero difference on the connector.
Compared with my old CCFL-backlit desktop LCD, the Retina Display's backlight is far less uniform, and whites have a more readily perceptible color shift across the screen. It's not enough to qualify for a replacement (trust me, I tried), but it's nonetheless distracting enough to make me want to do most of my design work on my standard-DPI monitor.
If you aren't aware, you can tease out the LCD manufacturer via the model string and this command:
ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r
If it begins with LSN, it's a Samsung (which tend to be the good ones); if it's LP, it's an LG (which, unsurprisingly, tend to be the poor ones).and whites have a more readily perceptible color shift across the screen
Is yours dysfunctional? Retina screen has honestly been a godsend.
The line details on UIs are too thin so contrast disappears and the text verticals are too thin so it hinders readability for me. iOS 7 admittedly doesn't help that but it's not for me.
Oh and according to my optician I have better than average sight.