Hy: The Logical choice

cmpitg 12 years ago |

I've been following Hy for a while and it's sad that macros are still part of on-going discussions with no definite plan. It's one of the reason I prefer Scheme-inspired Lisps to Common Lisp. Hy just looks Lispy but it's no where near Lisp without all the macro system.

madhouse 12 years ago | |

Hy has macros, and they work fairly well. I'm using plenty of macros in Adderall, would not be possible without them. There are a few rough edges with Hy macros, mostly due to the underlying Python, but I at least, can live with that, and they don't hinder my work.

cmpitg 12 years ago | | |

My bad, you're right. I didn't know the documentation section for macro was added recently. It looks pretty Common Lispy. Reader macro looks nice, still at its beginning stage though.

JacobGoodson 12 years ago |

It is more common lispish, therefore, it is awesome!

wuschel 12 years ago |

Hy looks like fun. On more scheme/lisp derivative on the block. It would be great to see it on IPython.

wirrbel 12 years ago |

Would really like to see some clojure->python dialect. Hy seems more "experimental" which is also great.

emidln 12 years ago | |

There is an older clojurepy that exists. The author mentioned abandoning it and it needing to target the python AST (like Hy) instead of .pyc to be more portable/less brittle. If you're interested in this, drop me a line (emidln@gmail.com) as I've been toying with using modern clojurescript as a starting point rather than the old codebase.

sepeth 12 years ago |

Python is great, Hy is even better \m/

jopython 12 years ago |

Have they implemented multiline lambdas?

paultag 12 years ago | |

Hey dude, language author here - yeah, a (lambda) will become a Python lambda if it's a single expression, otherwise it'll turn into an anonymous function (with a name like `_hy_anon_fn_00011`) and replace the lambda with a ref to the function.

Allll taken care of :)

wirrbel 12 years ago | | |

I just want to say how much I enjoy seeing hy popping up now. I have come to really like ClojureScript for my webdev stuff, Scheme from SICP and Python, well, has also been on my toolstack for long

Sometimes Hy seems a little undecided on language issues as simple as (defn vs defun) usage of ! for mutating objects or alphabetic chars, etc. I value freedom of choice, but are there any plans to unify this in the direction of "there is one way to do it"?

paultag 12 years ago | | |

Yeah, totally. Not sure where we're going yet, but right now those stupid warts are just harmless tumors. Hopefully we can clean it up soon.

I, of course, prefer (defn) and (first) / (rest), but I know killing (defun) (car) and (cdr) will make a few people go nuts.

We'll have to make it sane before 1.0 :)

Thanks for hacking with Hy :3