Trader Joe's Shrugged(vvdailypress.com) |
Trader Joe's Shrugged(vvdailypress.com) |
Twitter came in to the community brought lots of jobs. Did that make the neighborhood better? No. What happened was that the price of housing went up for a group of people who could already not afford it. Basically the "area" was developed but not the "community".
Like an invasive species. There is nothing wrong with rabbits in general. I like them. But in Australia they are destroying the native species.
As humans we have more ability to pick up an move, but we tend to not want to do so. Most of the people in the low end of the economic spectrum rent, so it is not like the increase in property values is making them rich off of their homes, instead they see rent increases.
Trader Joes in the "wrong" neighborhood does the same thing. Many communities "need" a walmart because it will serve their need for cheap food and clothing, and won't raise the property values. It is easy to hate Walmart and other big box stores, but in truth, often a community needs "cheap" more than they need "good".
Edit: Produce is one of the things that are hard to get in a "food desert" Trader Joe's is notorious for having expensive produce with a short life span. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/4-things-not-to-buy-at-trader-jo...
It seems clear that when a neighborhood gentrifies, some of incumbent residents will find their lives improved (perhaps because: a job is created that they get, they own property which is now more valuable, the neighborhood is safer, schools are better), while others will find their lives worsened (because they are renters who can no longer afford their home or neighborhood).
Whenever we have these kinds of discussions, I want to know what the alternatives are. Granted that gentrification is a mixed bag, is there a plausible alternative which helps anyone in these neighborhoods?
These happened. Redlining was in no small part due to direct federal policy. These have had impact on our neighborhoods, impact that can't be downplayed, and communities adjusted to survive. Gentrification in a lot of ways looks like the undoing of these policies, which would be fine, but look closer and you see that the neighborhood ecosystems are being strained yet again. Whatever equilibriums were obtained (many via struggle and sweat equity by families with ties to the area/no other options) are now being threatened.
I think reparations to neighborhoods, communities, and people directly affected by redlining is necessary, and would serve to lessen the power differential between communities and neighborhoods. Doing so would ease the problems created by population transfer.
I think this handily solves the problem - rents can't go up too much, otherwise the possible employees leave and the business shutters. Locals are employed, business runs, things improve in the neighbourhood and lift all boats.
Perhaps you're not familiar with minimum wage?
With regards to your edit: Not sure how no produce is better than produce with a short expiration. Also, anecdotally, I've never had this problem (although I largely eat their bananas, which have easy tells for how long they'll last and are amazingly cheap).
Jake Dobkin's piece on gentrification is a great read for anyone interested: http://gothamist.com/2013/09/23/ask_a_native_new_yorker_how_...
Nobody cares that you want to vomit but the people who love you. Strangers might care why something makes you want to vomit, if you can convince them to.
This article has a lot of rage and perhaps it's justified. But it's also entirely possible that stores do this sort of thing all the time with the blessing of city councils and what it does is displace the existing population. Dallas (where I live near) is notorious for giving developers tax breaks to tear down lower class apartments if they agree to build something of much higher tax value. I doubt Dallas is odd man out.
This author takes as fact that the economic improvement but bristles at the idea of mandating some of that through affordable housing and a community hiring benefit.
"So it is not enough that the $8 million development of four-to-10 retail businesses, with Trader Joe’s serving as the anchor tenant, would bring new jobs, quality food and other goods and services, and tax revenues, to a poor neighborhood."
No it's not enough. It would bring new jobs but to who? It would bring quality food but for whom? It would increase tax revenues but for who? The answers to those questions are rarely "the poor from the community". The author's anger sounds empty without answers to critical questions and his unfailing belief in the free market makes me wonder if he ever ventured anywhere at all.
1. The crux of the issue for PAALF was that increasing neighborhood desirability (and therefore rent) without ensuring either living wage guarantees or affordable housing would result in the displacement of current neighborhood residents.
2. The land was being sold at a $500,000 discount from its assessed value, which was money that PAALF felt the community desperately needed.
Here's some more context:
[W]hen Trader Joe's announced Monday it was pulling out due to 'negative reactions from the community," PAALF was as surprised as anyone.
"This was not about Trader Joe's," Gilliam said in response to questions from reporters. He said the group's opposition was rooted in development commission's "broken promises of the past."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/02/portlan...
The property in question was assessed at $2.9 M and was offered to Majestic Realty for $500,000, which amounts to a nearly $2.4 M “subsidy.” This subsidy primarily benefits the Roski family, one of the richest families in the country. It secondarily benefits Traders Joes, a national corporation. It mandates no affordable housing and no job guarantees from Trader Joes.
A new Trader Joes will increase the desirability of the neighborhood to non-oppressed populations, thereby increasing the economic pressures that are responsible for the displacement of lowincome and Black residents.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/paalf...
Now its quite possible TJ didn't pay the entrance fee, those monies paid out to concerned groups who can change the outlook of any new business.
Racism and exploitation of the poor are big business, Animal Farm would be a good start to understand the situation
Move money to poor people rather than rich people (and the businesses that support and serve them) to currently poor neighborhoods.
Gentrification is something that happens primarily to predominantly African-American neighborhoods in the US, and one of its effects is eventually pricing the poor black community out of the neighborhood. But here's a question... where are the middle class black families?
Historically, racial segregation happened across economic boundaries. A black doctor or a black lawyer was still black, and unwelcome in white neighborhoods. This meant that historically black neighborhoods had a rich, vibrant economic culture, with wealthy members of the community living among the poor, supporting local business and providing role models for youth.
With the success of the civil rights movement in the 1960s came a new geographic social mobility for black professionals. Those who could afford it could now move into nicer, cleaner, safer, white neighborhoods. And they did so. And the more it happened, the worse the black neighborhoods got, creating more pressure for those who could afford to leave to leave. Eventually, the historically black neighborhoods were stripped down to ghettos, dominated by gang violence and devoid of the local businesses that once served the middle class. Soon, the only opportunity for jobs and social advancement was outside the neighborhood, and poverty grew even worse. It's a terrible cycle.
This was aggravated further by the (illegal) practice of redlining, where banks colluded to deny funding to entire neighborhoods, depressing real estate prices and driving homes and businesses into foreclosure. (White) developers could then swoop in and buy land at fire-sale prices, building out the new infrastructure for a wave of gentrifying whites looking for cheap nice houses in the heart of the city.
Think about this, and you can see the resistance to gentrification. Historically, it's been nothing but trouble for the people already in a neighborhood.
San Francisco's red-light denizens fight to stay seedy:
http://www.post-gazette.com/life/lifestyle/2006/10/24/San-Fr...
http://www.boston.com/yourtown/boston/jamaicaplain/gallery/0...
Apparently there are quite a few minority-owned businesses and other community groups that want the store there.
There is a lot more history here as well as much more to this particular issue than the vvdailypress article even hints at. For instance, Trader Joes was given a huge discount on that property, putting it in the range that multiple local (worker owned) coops could potentially afford to put a grocery store on that spot, but the PDC never offered the property to anyone else at that price, only Trader Joes. I am very happy the deal fell through.
Trader Joes are built for upper middle class clientele not the poor. The food is not very cheap although healthier.
That said the subsidy doesnt make sense unless the community had ulterior motives of cleaning up a rough patch of town which could be perfectly acceptable -- I am not sure the specifics on the area. Lots of communities use this practice to bring new businesses in which develop the land into attractive property instead of dilapidated buildings or parking lots. That in turn entices more land developers to build new homes/apartments/condos/etc. It's a cycle to gentrify a community.
-- Booker T. Washington
I am not sure. A lot of the poorer neighborhoods in my city (Atlanta) were built as bedroom communities for factory workers.
As others have suggested, job magnets that are otherwise undesirable to the upper middle class might work.
WalMarts, airports, jails, power plants, sewage treatment plants, military bases - did I miss anything?
"This isn't the best way to help poor people" is a very different argument from "this will hurt poor people".
Yes. They hire locally and train and pay very well. That one store would bring 30-40 jobs paying $40,000 - $60,000 for 'grocers' that stock shelves and run the registers.
It's a pretty good job though for most people is what you're saying, and I agree. But this also means there is competition for these jobs.
Fair questions, I'll grant you that. My question to you: is doing nothing (an empty lot) better than ambiguity about the people who will finally benefit from this economic development? If TJ moved in and somehow ended up providing only a net of 1% benefit to the local community, would that be worse than 0%?
Of course it does, it is a chain store. I'm all for working out alternatives, but actually work them out before seeking to demolish what currently functions, otherwise you are just making the perfect the enemy of the good.
I'd guess that's exactly the worry here. Installing places like Trader Joes, which have the impact of attracting the more well-off, causes a gentrification feedback loop, raising the cost of local housing and ultimately displacing those that can't afford it.
I'm having trouble seeing how this is comparable. It sounds like the Dallas example involves (ab)using eminent domain to take property away, but the TJ case is developing new on a vacant lot. And the Dallas example is giving extra incentive through the government to do something that may not be economically wise on its own, but evidently TJ thinks that it can offer something in that neighborhood that will be able to justify its own existence.
Right now an empty parking lot isn't helping the community much; this should also be taken into consideration.
My theory about this story is that these poverty pimps that claim to be community activists have no interest in bettering their supposed constituents. So now there's no Trader Joes and therefore there's zero gain to the community. So rather than collecting something in taxes as well as the benefits from the economic stimulus, they get nothing -- an empty lot. 10% of something is a heck of a lot better than 100% of nothing. And, some of those poor people actually own their homes, some are upside down because of bad mortgages, the dramatic property value boost that would have happened could have turned many lives around. Now the values will drop even more because an investor knows that that neighborhood has zero potential for growth and thus nothing would drive capital appreciation. This whole "protest" was so incredibly stupid that it's mind boggling -- unless you ask yourself who benefits from Trader Joes not opening.. The poverty pimps and the community "organizations" that have a vested interest in keeping people dependent on their "services."
It's like when certain groups of black people ostracize kids that study hard in school, claiming they're "acting white." We can't have that -- they might actually make something of themselves and disprove the sanctity of victimhood within the inner city. It's funny because Michelle Obama made a big deal about how there are these so-called "food deserts" in the inner city. Apparently, Trader Joe's isn't the right kind of grocery store to make that group happy. Maybe they can build a liquor store and a pawnshop there instead. Would the community complain then? I seriously doubt it. If Trader Joes wasn't a white-hipster paradise, this "protest" would not have happened. This same exact segment of the population complains about de facto segregation and yet when there's an effort to actually bring some economic activity to a primarily black area -- they complain. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Maybe this "community group" should have put it to a vote. Let the neighborhood decide rather than some group that claims to represent the neighborhood.
The people that oppose this deal obvious no nothing about real estate, development and economic stimulus -- instead they actually enjoy seeing neighborhoods deteriorate, because with depressed neighborhoods, that victim card gets much more shiny and useful and the politicians that prey on these people get more votes.
Is it worth $2.9 million? Apparently Trader Joe's thinks it's worth less than $500,000 since they didn't buy it.
Gentrification is something that happens to primarily poor, and primarily urban neighborhoods. These also tend to be disproportionately minority neighborhoods (of a variety of ethnic minorities, but blacks are prominent among them in pretty much every region of the US, while the mix of the rest varies from region to region), but its more about economic class than race, which is mostly a distraction.
> Think about this, and you can see the resistance to gentrification. Historically, it's been nothing but trouble for the people already in a neighborhood.
Its nothing but trouble for current residents for reasons that have nothing to do with the history of the racial history you recount (which is generally accurate); bringing rich people and high paying jobs (already filled by rich people, or for which the poor current residents aren't qualified) to where poor people are doesn't help the poor people, it just pushes them aside.
I do think African-American culture is a unique case, though. Immigrants tend to be socially (upwardly) mobile and get out of the ghetto in a generation or three. The old black neighborhoods are different, much more trap-like and harder to escape.
The "lift all boats" outcome is exactly what activists are afraid of, because if that actually happens it makes the neighborhood "more desirable", and new people will start getting interested in moving in. Those people provide upward pressure on rents.
And once new people move in, they would now be "locals" and eligible for the jobs, too.
There's no logical way to satisfy these anti-gentrification groups because what they're afraid of is quite literally "the neighborhood getting nicer".
Instead of making their cause "keep the rent low by keeping the town crappy", they should make their cause "raise wages so we can afford a nicer town".
I don't think they're afraid of "the neighbourhood getting nicer". I think they're afraid of people who don't know the local situation "helping" them out - "for their own good" of course. It is the same problems that countries face who work with the IMF/World Bank. Who wouldn't want free money?
That is, if a neighborhood is kind of on the line between okay and bad, this policy might help push it up into okay -- businesses would say, "Okay, there is enough going on in this neighborhood that we can deal with moving into it even if we have these hiring restrictions," and then the hiring restrictions may in fact improve the neighborhood.
But if the neighborhood is solidly bad, the business says, "Let me get this straight: you want us to move into a part of the city where it's by no means clear that we can prosper anyway, AND you want to make it really hard for us to hire people, AND you want to slow down any improvement that our presence may make to the neighborhood by meaning that it all has to be organic rather than imported? HELL NO." And so then nobody takes a chance on really poor neighborhoods and they get worse and worse.
On the gripping hand, I don't think it's a plausible policy in America. It seems outside of the type of business regulations which can actually get enacted.
Bill applies for a job at Costco, but Costco only hires a fraction of the number of workers that other retailers do per square foot or dollar of revenue, so they turn him down. In the future, Costco will be paying Bill $0/month. As he continues to hunt for a job, Bill goes on food stamps.
A month later, Bill later applies for a job at Walmart, where he's hired making just above minimum wage at $8/hour. Since he's only earning $8/hour and only working ~30 hours/week to start, Walmart will be paying Bill about $900/month. Bill will continue to receive some food stamps, but less than he was receiving in the month that Costco turned him down.
Explain to me why Walmart is being "subsidized" here.
For a short stretch in 2008, I was actually living out of my car, making barely $200 a week DJing at some shit clubs in Houston. I knew how to use a computer, but I certainly didn't know how to code. Here it is in 2014 and I make more money in a day than I did in an entire month back then. I taught myself, reached out to complete strangers who where experienced to recruit them as mentors and in 2010 I started getting paid to code. I'm not saying everyone should learn to code, but there is a way out of shit-paying jobs -- but it involves taking initiative instead of blaming everyone and relying on the "system" to help.
I have little sympathy for folks who continue to make minimum wage for years -- it's their own fault. That's not a popular opinion, but it's true. There is nothing stopping that Wal Mart greeter from spending his after work time learning something new.
Poverty is a choice. Maybe not a conscious one, but a choice nonetheless. I see plenty of satellite dishes when I drive past the public housing complex. I see plenty of $200+ sneakers using food stamp cards at the grocery store. I see a lot of blame, but very little personal responsibility -- it's always the "Evil" corporation's fault. It's the government's fault, it's Wal Mart's fault -- it's everyone's fault but the person who is actually in the situation.
Randian worldview detected. Continued oppression of the downtrodden assured. Society must reserve resources for professional PowerPoint makers. All hail Status Quo.
Care to elaborate? Assuming the Walmart has their standard grocery section they will sell fresh fruits/vegetables, meat, dairy, eggs, grains and the like. It may not be the highest quality but it won't kill you.
This could provide a huge benefit to those people. But I guess we can just ignore the positive benefit to those people. Instead let's kill the development in the interest of "saving" the bottom 1% at the expense of other people in the neighborhood, many of whom are the working poor. This Trader Joe's deal could have make them fairly rich. If they own a $40K home that's now worth $150K, they just made $110K. They could refinance their home, cash out the equity and use that money to start a business, pay debt or buy more property. With one deal, they wouldn't be poor anymore. These "community groups" rather than trying to keep people victims ought to be out there teaching about real estate, investing and starting businesses, but alas, they only teach about how oppressed they are.
You're suggesting that if someone is poor in a neighborhood, we should ensure that everyone else gets fucked just to look after them? You are aware of something called Section 8, I presume? Do you know anything about how it works? Apparently not. If we followed your logic, then there would be no such thing as neighborhood revitalization, because a revitalized neighborhood necessarily results in higher property values. Interestingly, neighborhood revitalization has a positive effect on schools, especially in reducing de facto segregation. But of course, we can't have the schools improving because then the poor kids wouldn't have any more excuses and the poverty pimp business would dry up within a generation.
An empty lot benefits nobody.
It sounds like what everyone's dancing around is the concern that a TJs in that community would start the process of gentrification that would raise the cost of living and make it untenable for the current residents to continue living there.
Assuming that gentrification is a real problem (I have zero experience, so it's hard for me to judge): have you heard of any solutions to the issue besides rent control or "keeping out" the middle class?
The other theory is that they tried to shakedown Trader Joe's exactly like Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Push Coalition does.
http://thebillfold.com/2013/08/price-comparison-battle-safew...
http://www.checkbook.org/interactive/spmkt/other/t/article.c...
> Trader Joe’s received higher overall quality ratings than Dominick’s and Jewel-Osco, and charges similar prices.
I could go on, but I guess you can do your own research. Seriously, their prices are on average, lower than most.
"...full-time crew members can start in the $40,000 to $60,000 a year range."
http://womensenews.org/story/labor/130722/cashier-the-deal-o...
Speaking of minimum wage... Trader Joe's pays substantially above it. My niece works there and as a stock clerk she gets paid substantially over minimum wage and has health benefits from them.
*source: I lived above a TJ's in Berkeley for a few years.
I shop almost exclusively at Trader Joe's* and am not (to my knowledge at least) nutritionally deficient. I get fruits, vegetables, dairy, meats, eggs, bread/cereal, and the odd snack. What am I missing?
I'll admit to a small bit of hyperbole in calling that nutritional deficiency, I should have better called that a distinct lack of variety.