Mapillary in the OpenStreetMap iD Editor

Mapillary in the OpenStreetMap iD Editor(blog.mapillary.com)

142 points by petern 11 years ago | 24 comments

a3_nm 11 years ago |

Note that Mapillary has some downsides. In addition to the CC-BY-SA license, the Mapillary T&C (http://www.mapillary.com/terms.html 1.3) give them the specific right to reuse user content as they wish, without attribution. (This is different from OSM, which uses the ODbL.)

Also, even though the license is CC-BY-SA, section 1.2 of the T&C prohibits commercial use. Further, I see no data dumps provided (or statement of intent to provide some eventually), unlike OSM, StackExchange, Wikimedia projects.

Last, the smartphone app seems to be closed-source. (If it is open-source, I couldn't find the source.)

It is great news that people are trying to develop a Google Street View replacement, but OSM's will to let people use this data to improve OSM (like they do for Bing satellite imagery) doesn't imply that this project is as free as OSM.

nodata 11 years ago | |

Either it's CC-BY-SA or it isn't. Maybe someone from Mapillary could comment.

jesolem 11 years ago | | |

To clarify: * Outgoing license is CC-BY-SA. "Mapillary Photos are available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0)." from http://www.mapillary.com/legal.html * OSM has an explicit right to take data under their contributor terms http://www.mapillary.com/osm.html * The incoming license is per Mapillary ToS because we want to be able to use the photos for 3D/street view/recognition/etc

Also we do give attribution to photographers under every single photo.

(I'm on the Mapillary team)

chippy 11 years ago | | |

The images are indeed CC-BY-SA. Mapillary has an API / Apps etc which could be restricted under the terms they have published. The use of the services can be seen as being different from the image data.

e.g. Business plans: http://www.mapillary.com/business.html "The commercial plans only regulate the use of the APIs, the photos are still under Creative Commons."

a3_nm 11 years ago | | |

Maybe the relevant section is left over from the previous license, which was CC-BY-NC (http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2014/03/17/mapillary-goes-c...). Alternatively, IANAL but I imagine that the individual photos could still be CC-BY-SA (if, e.g., someone else redistributes them) but that the service itself cannot be used for commercial purposes. As bulk exports are prohibited (2.1) and dumps are not provided, however, this would mean that the data is CC-BY-SA in theory but hard to reuse commercially except for individual pictures.

lucb1e 11 years ago | | |

> Either it's CC-BY-SA or it isn't.

Or it's dual-licenced... As I read the comment you are responding to, one could pick the license they like. If they pick CC-BY-SA, then they will have to share-alike and provide attribution, but it's allowed in commercial projects. If they want to use it in a non-commercial project, then they can use the T&C license and don't need to provide attribution.

I am not a lawyer, but I've seen dual-licensed projects before. Please do correct me if I'm wrong about this though.

Doctor_Fegg 11 years ago |

Misleading title.

openstreetmap.org doesn't have a Street View function. Mapillary has been integrated into the default _editor_ (the wonderful iD) as an aid to mapping. It's not exposed to non-editing users.

petern 11 years ago | |

Sorry, that is totally right. It's about the iD editor, nothing else.

rmc 11 years ago |

For those who don't know, Mapillary is attempting to be an open source, crowd sourced equivalent of Google Street View. You can download the app on your phone and do some street view today.

aw3c2 11 years ago | |

For varying amounts of "open source".

untog 11 years ago | |

Oh, wow. I wouldn't have known that from the blog post at all. That's awesome. An app is the perfect delivery mechanism for this.

davidw 11 years ago |

Street view is a ton of data and uses custom hardware, and seems to be done in a fairly systematic way in order to cover most of an area.

So they've got their work cut out for them. That said, at one point I wasn't that optimistic about open street map either, and all of a sudden it seems like they now have very good data - at least where I live.

showsover 11 years ago |

Just installed it on my WP, and I'm really glad there's an app available (most neglected platform).

Congrats to Mapillary for becoming the default street view. I hope to help in my neck of the woods!

petern 11 years ago | |

The WM app is contributed by Tommy Ovesen one of the Norway Mapillary members, see http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2014/05/15/windows-phone-re...

roncohen 11 years ago |

Well done Jan Erik and team!

DonHopkins 11 years ago |

Nice pie menus!