Twitter Heron: Stream Processing at Scale

pixelmonkey 11 years ago |

"In the evaluation in section 7 of the paper, Heron beats Storm in every single metric."

In every metric except perhaps the most important one for actual users:

Storm is open source, Heron isn't.

Also, the @TwitterOSS account indicated that there are "no plans to open source in the short-term":

https://twitter.com/TwitterOSS/status/605460461761396736

frankmcsherry 11 years ago | |

The paper contains the motivation: "For our needs at Twitter, we needed a stream processing platform that was open-source, high-performance, scalable, and was compatible with the current Storm API."

I guess 3/4 isn't bad.

djb_hackernews 11 years ago |

> All the Stream Managers in a topology connect to each other to form an O(k^2) connection network

shouldn't that be !(k-1)? Or am I missing something about the architecture?

escaped_hn 11 years ago | |

Every stream manager is connected to every other stream manager. k managers = k^2 connections.

djb_hackernews 11 years ago | | |

Yea I must be missing something here.

If you have k=2 stream managers you have 1 connection, not 4 . Even if the connections weren't bidirectional you'd have 2 connections.

bmm6o 11 years ago | | |

Parent is talking big-O and so is ignoring that it isn't exactly k^2. Depending on how you count (do 2 nodes require 2 connections or 1 bi-directional connection) it's k(k-1).

Horusiath 11 years ago | | |

it's (k-1)^2 actually - each to each except self.

dang 11 years ago |

Is the paper online? If someone can produce a standard URL for it, we'll change the link in this post.

rckclmbr 11 years ago | |

http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2742788

dang 11 years ago | | |

Sorry, I meant the pdf. Is there a url for it that will work for everybody? The one I get when I click "pdf" on that ACM page seems unlikely.

frankmcsherry 11 years ago | | |

SIGMOD 2015 proceedings are open access, meaning the conference has arranged with ACM to provide the content to pretty much everyone.

That being said, the submission is to someone's (Adrian's) interpretation of the work, and is arguably more useful than just linking at the pdf itself.

wheaties 11 years ago |

Now I get it. It's not just "I didn't write this, therefore shit, so I need to rewrite it from scratch." This was a clear explanation in a bite sized chunk which illustrated the reasons for Heron. Thanks.