> if you want to run your code in a browser, there's no alternative.

^^^^ YES. Although:

1. there was Java in the browser until recently when the Government said not to use it. Eh, it was dead anyway (in the browser at least- very few new projects using it).

2. there are those things called Flash/Flex/Air/etc. that Jobs killed when Apple wouldn't support them- they still live too all over the place though.

3. HTML 5- it's not just for breakfast anymore.

4. Javascript isn't just there because it is the only thing- morons at Google, etc. helped make faster JS compilers/interpreters. How is another scripting language going to erupt if they keep making the bad one faster. It's like PhP all over. Bastards.

Now back to the post to comment on just one thing:

> Just take 10 minutes and read the documentation! 10 minutes!

I was with it and then I read that and thought, "That's bullshit. Total bullshit." So #1 magic JS MVC framework? AngularJS. AngularJS documentation? Yes it has it... but even though I understand it, when something goes wrong, it is not RTFM, it's TFM: Too Fucking Magic. Batarang doesn't help when things aren't wired correctly, and when it does, it is not written for the beginner. EmberJS? EmberJS has only a community of hardcore Rails devs and Sproutcore people that didn't care it got renamed twice (sproutcore->amber.js->EmberJS) and DHH won't embrace it, so it's is F.U.C.K'd- even one of its big time proponents admitted it would be years before it is ready:

http://hawkins.io/2013/05/ember-data-is-pre-alpha-software/

http://hawkins.io/2013/07/we-are-pioneers/

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